But dont hold your breath. The ceremony, with all its words and signs, has always just been what it is. The Church officer is legally authorized to perform a civil marriage in the jurisdiction where the marriage will take place. Re: The Law of the Gospel conflating covenant and ordinance: All covenants are established through ordinancesthough not every ordinance is utilized to establish a covenant. the instructions surrounding the actual endowmentthen no, I dont think theres a plausible argument for that, nor do I think the Church nor the prophets have ever claimed them to be. I stood there in shock thinking, The book was dead right. That actually should be included in temple prep classes. With that in mind, when what consider that which is most sacred above all it should be obvious why the woman is at the fulcrum of eternitythe center. Nothing will strengthen your spiritual foundation like temple service and temple worship.. @Elisa, when I first experienced the presentation of the endowment, I was waiting for the point to get rid of the green apronI understood the symbolism, and so I couldnt imagine wearing the symbol throughout. Men expect that, when a woman doesnt give in and defer she can be seen as broken, wrong or even sinful. But if you could get past that (and I understand many couldnt), there was actually something quite beautiful as a woman to receive a kind of literal blessing and anointing by another woman. Honestly, I missed the richness of the other ceremony and the old movies. Women were much more independent in some ways back then. Some people told me that the firmament seemed more emphasized in the creation story than in the past that there is material about the days of creation that they didnt remember being there before. And unifying men and women in an eternal complimentary relationship is the key to eternal life and felicity. No settlement, no possession, no inheritance. @Jim Bennett, this is interesting. The new temple film, which Ive only seen once so far, seems to me, to be just for them, and my friends in Africa. I was glad to see it was removed last time I attended. If you can point out somewhere in that section (or any other) where the two are equated, Im more than happy to listen, but I just read it again and still dont see it. They do need their free labor, though, so the sexism gets repackaged every once in awhile to make everyone feel better. Latter-day Saints dont go into the temple with a notebook or a recorder or at least, they shouldnt. They apparently figure that out on their own now. For the Strength of Youth conferences were postponed during the pandemic but will begin again in 2022 and 2023. Those are the three categories that I have in my mind right now, Leavitt told LDS Living in an interview. You also state that there are plenty of LDS husbands that dont make their wives full partners, and youre absolutely right! 3 Is there any plausible argument remaining that the temple ceremony is of ancient, unchanging origin? Its an interesting acceleration that matches the explosion of Latter-day Saint temple building during church President Russell M. Nelsons administration. A lot has happened in the Church this past year, and between the announcements, callings, and changes due to COVID its hard to keep track of them all. Ceremonial clothing previously used may still be worn for temple worship. In the past, there was a point in the ceremony when anyone not willing to make those covenants was invited to leave (though I have never seen anyone in the temple actually depart at that point). Taking that part out may have made it more comfortable, but it also made it sterile. For both of us, attending the temple was not something we ever enjoyed or made a priority.). Measures that were introduced during COVID-19 to reduce touching seem to have been made permanent. The first (2019) was the most significant revision to the temple ceremony that Ive seen in my lifetime (I am too young to have experienced pre-1990 temple). I had a friend in 1990 who promised me everything had been fixed and I HAD to give it another chance. Going to respond to some below, but first, some additional thoughts on changes that I have in reflecting: I think the changes are actually kind of negative. Maybe the temple is less weird now, but that also makes it less interesting, less connected to physically moving through different heavenly spaces, less connected to our own living out a heros journey, less connected to the way our pioneer forebears engaged in temple worship, less an embodied ritual, less high churchy. Pretty easy exercise if you are sincere about what you wrote. To riff on something the illustrious RBG said, I ask no sacred space for my sex. Even so, Im not opposed to men placing women on pedestals. Ive not done a sealing session since that change was made. The last few years of changes have not moved the needle at all for me because of the polygamous (and therefore sexist) undertones throughout the entire thing that make it rotten to the core for me. Leavitt, who served three terms as Utah governor, succeeded Ron Jarrett in the role. Learn More about Temples. That is not listed in the church handbook or temple prep classes. Temple attendees said the endowments wording now includes several reminders to obey. As COVID-19 restrictions diminish in various areas and temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints continue to increase operations, Latter-day Saints are reminded of previously announced adjustments to temple ceremonial clothes and the availability of new styles. We all can enter the celestial glory despite our sins. I lost my trust. The LDS Body of Christ spoke up in various forums over the years that this was hurtful. Having lived in different cultures, and studied the history of religion, I have seen how under different circumstances symbols can have different meanings. I turned to my dad at one point and whispered, They arent serious are they? He looked at me and shrugged! (1) D&C 22 refers to a new and an everlasting covenant. The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released the following message on Monday, July 20, 2020, about changes to the temple endowment ceremony: The sacred teachings, promises, and ceremonies of the temple are of ancient origin, and point God's children to Him as they make further covenants and learn more about . The Choir, Orchestra, and Bells on Temple Square are tested for COVID-19 every time they rehearse. (And I suppose if we were to get nit-picky about that arrangement we could argue that that places the woman on a more sacred footing than the man.) This is also an excellent series on polygamy: http://www.thefaithfulfeminists.com/2021/11/polygamy-in-pieces-part-one-timeline.html. I think the second area is expanding the reach of our social media and digitization. I thought well why didnt they specify that? I felt pretty invisible as a woman in the endowment , especially as Eve never said a word after leaving the Garden. @Travis Im surprised that you dont see any connection to Masonry and the Temple endowment. I went through for the first time in 1993 and was completely unprepared even though I was a BYU student and had taken temple prep classes. A new Deseret Industries building was dedicated in Houston, Texas, by Elder Sean Douglas of the Seventy on March 24, 2021. Ward and and stake boundaries are established according to how many priesthood holders pay tithes in the area. I spent about an hour with 1st time recommends. In any case, it doesnt matter, I wont ever be going back. Some things go without saying. Yet somehow, neither the Lord nor the Prophets ever said anything derogatory about those that were never called to participate, only those that were *unwilling* to do so. Traveler, Anddenex, zil2 and 2 others. The Creation Room room in the Idaho Falls Temple. Download a photo or video by clicking or tapping on it. rules, Utes seeing transfer portals impact on college gymnastics, revisions last week to the temple endowment ceremony, David Bednars refreshingly open General Conference talk in 2019, Dialogue article for a history of those shifts, temple building during church President Russell M. Nelson. First Presidency announces changes to the temple endowment ceremony By The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints July 20, 2020 12:23 PM MDT The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released the following message on Monday, July 20, 2020, about changes to the temple endowment ceremony: Ive never once seen my husband run roughshod over me and our children, nor do I think any husband can do so and still be hearken[ing] unto Father.. Ive had the thought, If they really want to increase temple attendance, they should just go full monty with the video. A phased reopening of Church historic sites was approved by the First Presidency in May 2021. Jana Riess. I personally mean you no harm. @lws, that whole series (I think its in 6 parts) is really good and eye-opening. The man and the women are equalbut not identical. Our society is finally slowly but surely tearing patriarchy down.. I love to follow Jesus Christ and study his gospel. Im a convert since high school and went through the ceremony when I got married in 1976. . Obfuscating this is worse than redressing it, and expresses that who ever is in charge of temple changes either doesnt fully understand it, or is manipulating it. This couple represents each of you as if you were at the altar . They have completed or are no longer attending high school, secondary school, or the equivalent. God decides to send his son. Im not a big fan of all of these changes. If you are going to look at roles, you might consider Eves position of questioning and considering on her own, rather than obeying, and then exercising her own spiritual authority to disobey God, and then to lead Adam to follow after her. I love the fact that agency is so central to the story. Relief Society, Young Women, and Primary General Presidencies also provide them with support and instruction. I know some do like it, find it peaceful & spiritualbully for them!but a whole lot of the ones who claim to either like it or that they feel like they should go more often secretly dislike it and just dont want to admit it to others (due to social pressure) or themselves (due to thinking they arent good people for not liking it). Informed consent. The War in Heaven. (2) To wear the fig leaf throughout the presentation of the endowment is to be marked by, and obedient to, satan, who gives it to us. Mom. And will know our righteousness level just by knowing us better than we know ourselves. (Thankfully, the president refused and helped him through it, but thats not really the point.) Because what Anna said. But Im very happy with how its going now. We live at a time when there is increasing commotion and chaos in the world, and that will continue.. By referring or linking you to this website, we do not endorse or guarantee this content, products, or services offered. I love the changes. Some of us just wish the Church would move a little faster on this issue than it is. Ive been an Episcopalian for 55 years. Read more about the temple announcements at LDS Living. It is exclusively about plural marriage. ) Those live roles have been eliminated, with the demonstration instead being performed on screen by Adam and Eve. I asked my parents the same questions and they gave me awkward and concerned glances and told me it wasnt appropriate to talk about the temple outside the templeit was sacred, not secret. I havent seen the new changes, so I dont know if they actually move the needle on any of the problems listed above. You are now leaving a website maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And thats a beautiful thing (IMO) as it grounds us in those things that make possible the reception of the Holy Ghostwhich (reception) gets us on the high road to eternal life. I have to admit now dont take this wrong one of the reasons I enjoy reading your comments is because Im a mystic at heartthough not as informed as you seem to be. I did family history for 40 years and loved it. It seems to me that the cosmos is created in a way that protects sacred space. Believe in women more, Jack. @dot, is that when they switched to the slide show? If preferred, members may still continue to use their current ceremonial clothing. The temple sealing was expressly structured in a way to permit men to be sealed to multiple women but not women to be sealed to multiple men. (I still have some hope that if you replace the church with Jesus that Jesus actually does think women are equal, but thats probably not what Elder Hamilton had in mind). If she doesnt defer and speaks up too much about that he can release her as well. It was the wrong time for me, but I capitulated. The biggest improvement Ive read about is the informed consent. Jesus said of children, Of such is the kingdom of God (Mark 10:14). I still do not believe in a God of tokens and signs. Either the brides or the grooms membership record is assigned to the unit over which the Church officer presides. My bishop lied and made me feel like I was wrong to ask questions. And mimicking slitting my throat and disemboweling myself, this is worse than creepy. Say it.. Thats 7 years I wont have with my children and grandchildren. Certainly the Prophet Jacob had to deal with that, in the Book of Mormon. It says a person who dislikes despises or is strongly prejudiced against men. On Cain and Abel, yes, something could be said about intent. However, the true reason why the Lord rejects Cains offer is because it is not the correct order. Articulating I covenant to obey the law of obedience is the most acute poisoning of the well. That is our choice in the frames of D&C 132, and often that is how our choices are administered in the framework and culture of the church. Wouldnt that previous language suggest that the revision also relates to husbands, ie, marriage? @Jack, I mistakenly mixed you with @Jack Hughes. When were were married, my wife had a SP who later became a GA he was the same way with her as my dad was with me. However this story doesnt eliminate the negatives of my other family polygamy story. Their stake president is their ecclesiastical leader. Of the fact that weve made mistakes and sinned, just as Adam and Eve did. It was not a part of my religious ritual, and my wife and I dont feel like we have missed out on anything by not attending. Regarding the 7 changes Elisa outlines in her first paragraph, my reactions are: Cain was commanded by the adversary to make an offeringand theres no way to obey that influence and be properly motivated toward God. Maybe you object to the term sexism because you think its a benevolent kind of sexism. Then there was the whole concept of signs and tokens. Or put another way, secret signals and passwords. 1) Im not dissatisfied with my temple experience, though I do wish it were closer. A May 24, 2021, letter announced that time-only marriages in the temple will no longer be performed. Even Elder Oaks doesnt justify this with the idea that women are different than men. To download media files, please first review and agree to the Terms of Use. It feels good to share a brief fist bump with you over the divide. @Elisa I think I read that in the sealing part that husband and wife now give themselves to each other. Then they will have to settle for being loved and maybe have to realize that God really does love all his children, not just them. Particularly, the bishops right. The robe, cap, sash and envelope will be made of the same material. While attendees see images of the galaxies on screen, they hear the voices of Elohim, Satan and Jesus discussing how to save humanity. Elisa, the ordinances of the endowment bestow upon both men and women the same powerstheyre identical. Nearly all of us were male. I do have issue with the men in suits who claim to be the mouthpieces of God when they are in fact simply turning their own opinions into doctrine and dogmaat the expense of those ordinary Mormons (who I love) and my predominantly Mormon community (which I cant escape). Its not fun to be out of step. A much better framing. Getting signs and tokens to pass by the angels and get you into heaven is kind of the opposite of accepting Christ, repenting, and getting to Heaven through the atonement. When a man fails to make his wife a full partner, thats not the Churchs fault; the Church is *constantly* telling them to do so. Lots of minor changes in language that are interesting and mostly positive, but it was hard to keep track of them all. Complimentary relationships are nowhere in our doctrine.. It was very shocking and embarrassing because we then had to explain to this couple on the way to the temple what they were about to experience in terms of the described penalties My husband has a couple of books on the temple by LDS authors and I think they make a case for linking the temple rituals back to Israel. Flimsy little slippers? Well, I completely missed the Wagenen scandal and the switch from the movies to slides. Law of Fast If these had been included with the changes in 2019 it would have made sense. @LHCA, Ive never heard the concept of having a beautiful gift to return to the Savior. Our early church leaders practiced earthly polygamy (much to the detriment of my foremothers who were harmed by this practice), and our current church leaders practice spiritual polygamy (both Nelson and Oaks are sealed to two women). I dont care. Ive heard from several people who have been that they dont see anything less sexist about it. (I remember being super bummed that they finally made a change but didnt bother addressing sexism.). Rest assured the Church & temple remain steadfastly sexist , (Tongue in cheek but I do appreciate your comment. (RNS) Last week marked the four-year anniversary since Russell M. Nelson assumed leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and it's . The day I went, I learned the initiatory ceremony was exactly as describe in the book I read. The only way to fix the endowment is to accept that it was not what Jesus told us was needed and throw it out as false. My interviewees said that despite some time-consuming elements being cut, such as the passing of tokens by hand to everyone in the room, the additions mean the endowment is running about the same length it was shortened to in 2019, roughly 90 to 105 minutes. I actually spend all kinds of time doing all kinds of great things in my area. The patriarchy didnt come from God. The revised endowment includes, for what I believe is the first time, a ritual performance of what Latter-day Saints call the War in Heaven. As we have continued to seek the direction of the Lord on this matter, President Nelson said, we have been impressed to modify our earlier plans for the Manti Utah Temple so that the pioneer craftsmanship, artwork, and character will be preserved, including the painted murals loved by so many. The few friends who were even willing to listen to my issues with the temple ceremonies have told me that its changed and I would find it much better now. In the case where a couple desires to be married civilly and where a sealing is not contemplated or possible, the couple is encouraged to invite their bishop or stake presidentwhere it is legalto officiate at the marriage ceremony, the letter reads. As for the apron, I think its beautiful. Announced Open Houses and Dedications. (I see where it can be misinterpreted that way, but as far as I can see, thats not what the text actually says. 1. There arent any changes that would make me want to go again. If that be the case, Im very sorry to hear that; but Im honestly not sure how that would be possible. Ive been glad here to see people express their bafflement, my chief response from start to finish, did I not make those covenants when baptised? We'll be going over the basics of this ceremony, and some of the exalted meaning that we can draw from it. How interesting for you to have had that direct experience with Masonic ritual! Read the manifesto when polygamy was ended. News of the changes in the ceremony was pick up by wire services and received nationwide coverage including a front page story in the New York Times, comments by Paul Harvey, and a report in Time magazine. We provide the link to this third party's website solely as a convenience to you. Any chance it can be removed/significantly altered? I couldve cried from gratitude. Watch or Read Inspiring Messages about Jesus Christ - Talks Available. We all know the people are dead, were just leaving three words out, which will make some sentences a little less cumbersome. The satanic green apron should be removed by the terrestrial stage of the presentation, or removed altogether from the endowment. What do you think their impact will be? You cant take something that denies the atonement, add a few pictures of Jesus, and suddenly it becomes Christ centered. Wouldnt he be kinda pissed we didnt feed, clothe, and house people instead? Emma and her counselors were even ordained with the priesthood and told to pick deacons and teachers from among the sisters (see josephsmithpapers.org). My understanding of the 2020 changes is that they happened because the director of the new temple movies was arrested for child sexual abuse. And one more thing: Exchanging money transaction in the temple (renting clothes) is a mockery and a contamination of the sacred space, full stop. The linked site has its own terms of use, privacy policies, and security practices that differ from those on our website. I really appreciate it! President Nelson has announced 83 new temples since becoming president in 2018. ,, . You may also like:A gift to the Master: 20 years of Tabernacle Choir Christmas magic. Nothing in our actual doctrine says women are more sacred than men, except these sort of statements leaders put out to tell us to quit complaining about our status. What are the certain elements. I dont want to make this an argument, but I think you may have misunderstood my point about sexism, perhaps because were coming from different foundations. Some clarification about that would help. @Holly thats cute that you think you know how we are spending our time and assume that we arent doing any of the things you say we should be doing. My experience was antithetical to that sentiment by comparison. Elisa, thanks for your civil response. I dont know that *early* church leaders were that way, but I certainly know men that have felt slighted by when they see as the Churchs maltreatment of men. The differences between men and women is what makes the cosmos go around? Read about plans for the Nauvoo Pageant, the British Pageant, and the Mesa Pageant at Newsroom. @fred if its any comfort to you, I have asked multiple people and none have any clue what that Trib article is referring to. Maybe this one primarily refers to baptism and confirmation? I look forward to attending and seeing how they did with that. Im reading, reading, skimming, reading, skimming, skipping, skimping LOL. The 65,000-square-foot store is located at Cypress Creek Parkway in Houston, just 15 minutes away from the Houston Texas Temple. What if we had a second income from a second wife? There were a couple of small changes from the 70s-90s that I wondered about if God was The same yesterday, today, and forever but with the changes that have happened since then that Ive read about it just seems to be to be a slower adaption to the world than the church makes in its more open statements to the public. Following that talk, this man became suicidal and begged his mission president to release him.

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